An Open Letter to New York State’s Franchise Oversight Board
Tuesday, October 11, 2016
ELMONT, NEW YORK, October 11, 2016 - To the membership of the New York State Franchise Oversight Board:
I'm writing as a concerned New Yorker and I'm sure I represent many tax-paying citizens of our state.
The New York Racing Association, its Board of Directors, and executives seem to subsist in some kind of ideological bubble that won’t allow reality to interfere until the franchise is returned to them.
While assuming this position, the NYRA has exhibited questionable business practices and has shirked its fiduciary responsibility.
Of course, this comes as a result of delay tactics by state government that is efforting to maintain control of Thoroughbred racing on America’s most important horse racing circuit.
I dutifully ask that the FOB scrutinize the following:
NYRA's president and chief executive officer, Christopher Kay, has said his utmost priority is to make a profit, yet his authority has failed to lead NYRA down a sound fiscal path.
Payments from Genting's Resort World Casino, which were agreed to by the state as part of a franchise extension agreement, among other considerations, have not been met in full due in part to Governor Andrew Cuomo's arbitrary order to cap casino revenue at 2012 levels.
In 2007, NYRA traded the property rights of its three racetracks--Aqueduct, Belmont Park and Saratoga--for casino revenue. There were no caps in the Memorandum of Understanding signed by then Governor Elliott Spitzer.
Instead, NYRA rolled over in exchange for self-preservation considerations and took no action. It should seek remedy from the courts which is, of course, a related issue.
This year, New York State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli audited NYRA and disagreed with NYRA's accounting methods. He also asked NYRA if they had a financial plan to operate at a profit, less dependent on casino revenue.
“NYRA relies on Video Lottery Terminals to stay in the black but that revenue stream isn’t guaranteed to continue as strongly, especially as new casinos open up across the state,” DiNapoli explained at the time.
“NYRA needs to come up with a plan to make money on racing operations, especially as it seeks to return to private control. Without such a plan, NYRA’s long term solvency could be a long shot.”
Kay reacted indignantly about the numbers and methods but nevertheless made a valid point. He disagreed in a prompt and detailed reply, but he has yet to respond to the second part: NYRA's existence with less, or without, casino revenue.
NYRA handles from five to ten times more off-track than it does on-track, varying from day to day and with the seasons. With NYRA Bets, NYRA effectively has become an online OTB.
This is good going forward because NYRA can't get people to come to the track, with the notable exception of Saratoga.
NYRA increasingly is relying on NYRA Bets as its main profit hub. If NYRA’s main source of income is to come from off track, why bear the cost of opening such large facilities as Belmont Park? In fact, why bear the expense of operating two facilities in such close proximity downstate?
These are the kind of concerns that NYRA's reorganization board should be working on so it can respond in a responsible and fiscally intelligent manner when called upon to explain its plans going forward. So far, NYRA has only suggested further reshuffling its board.
The Governor has challenged NYRA over the limits to the 2012 revenue cap with past knowledge that the NYRA won't fight for its rights.
DiNapoli's shot-across-the-bow and Cuomo's failed attempt to pass legislation that would further reduce casino revenue are always going to be in NYRA's future if the association fails to take action.
NYRA already has gone bankrupt without money from casino proceeds and it could happen again--a slippery slope at the very least.
The same goes for Nassau OTB which, by the way, still happens to owe NYRA over five million dollars. NYRA has been promised this payment, yet each quarter it continues to carry forward an operating loss due to the debt.
Again, NYRA should be seeking remediation through the courts.
Please recall that NYRA was promised Nassau OTB would establish a repayment plan by the same state government that already is attempting to renege on the deal for casino revenue and for the reprivatization of NYRA after three years.
NYRA has been asked repeatedly by your Franchise Oversight Board for breakdowns on betting, which NYRA claims is proprietary information. It is not.
All pool totals for every race with daily totals, broken down by on & off track wagers, are available and printed in Equibase result charts on a race-by-race basis. This is information that not long ago was transparently dispensed.
Parenthetically, this practice began at Churchill Downs Inc. several years earlier. But they are a publicly traded, and can act like corporations act. NYRA is, of course, a quasi-public, not-for-profit organization, not a private corporation, and should act accordingly.
NYRA's insistence on obfuscating facts the public has a right to know is its attempt to hide all the red ink. NYRA boasts about the figures at Saratoga, where it is highly profitable, but hides the downstate data in order to cloak the losses those tracks incur.
Attendance is also public information as NYRA has to remit to the state a 4% tax on paid admissions. As a concerned tax-paying horseplayer, I ask for uniformity and transparency in reporting, not just when the numbers look good.
I applaud the FOB members who recently called out Kay on his “we can't plan for the future” narrative. It's just part of the game-playing that rules NYRA policy while New York State clearly is lurking over its shoulder.
Time is past due for all involved in New York racing; NYRA, the state, and the FOB, to deal with big picture items in their entirety.
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Mark Berner, Horse Race Insider
Coming Thursday: Stars retiring early is only part of racing's problem? Tom Jicha takes a look.
I'm writing as a concerned New Yorker and I'm sure I represent many tax-paying citizens of our state.
The New York Racing Association, its Board of Directors, and executives seem to subsist in some kind of ideological bubble that won’t allow reality to interfere until the franchise is returned to them.
While assuming this position, the NYRA has exhibited questionable business practices and has shirked its fiduciary responsibility.
Of course, this comes as a result of delay tactics by state government that is efforting to maintain control of Thoroughbred racing on America’s most important horse racing circuit.
I dutifully ask that the FOB scrutinize the following:
NYRA's president and chief executive officer, Christopher Kay, has said his utmost priority is to make a profit, yet his authority has failed to lead NYRA down a sound fiscal path.
Payments from Genting's Resort World Casino, which were agreed to by the state as part of a franchise extension agreement, among other considerations, have not been met in full due in part to Governor Andrew Cuomo's arbitrary order to cap casino revenue at 2012 levels.
In 2007, NYRA traded the property rights of its three racetracks--Aqueduct, Belmont Park and Saratoga--for casino revenue. There were no caps in the Memorandum of Understanding signed by then Governor Elliott Spitzer.
This year, New York State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli audited NYRA and disagreed with NYRA's accounting methods. He also asked NYRA if they had a financial plan to operate at a profit, less dependent on casino revenue.
“NYRA relies on Video Lottery Terminals to stay in the black but that revenue stream isn’t guaranteed to continue as strongly, especially as new casinos open up across the state,” DiNapoli explained at the time.
“NYRA needs to come up with a plan to make money on racing operations, especially as it seeks to return to private control. Without such a plan, NYRA’s long term solvency could be a long shot.”
Kay reacted indignantly about the numbers and methods but nevertheless made a valid point. He disagreed in a prompt and detailed reply, but he has yet to respond to the second part: NYRA's existence with less, or without, casino revenue.
NYRA handles from five to ten times more off-track than it does on-track, varying from day to day and with the seasons. With NYRA Bets, NYRA effectively has become an online OTB.
This is good going forward because NYRA can't get people to come to the track, with the notable exception of Saratoga.
NYRA increasingly is relying on NYRA Bets as its main profit hub. If NYRA’s main source of income is to come from off track, why bear the cost of opening such large facilities as Belmont Park? In fact, why bear the expense of operating two facilities in such close proximity downstate?
These are the kind of concerns that NYRA's reorganization board should be working on so it can respond in a responsible and fiscally intelligent manner when called upon to explain its plans going forward. So far, NYRA has only suggested further reshuffling its board.
The Governor has challenged NYRA over the limits to the 2012 revenue cap with past knowledge that the NYRA won't fight for its rights.
DiNapoli's shot-across-the-bow and Cuomo's failed attempt to pass legislation that would further reduce casino revenue are always going to be in NYRA's future if the association fails to take action.
NYRA already has gone bankrupt without money from casino proceeds and it could happen again--a slippery slope at the very least.
The same goes for Nassau OTB which, by the way, still happens to owe NYRA over five million dollars. NYRA has been promised this payment, yet each quarter it continues to carry forward an operating loss due to the debt.
Again, NYRA should be seeking remediation through the courts.
Please recall that NYRA was promised Nassau OTB would establish a repayment plan by the same state government that already is attempting to renege on the deal for casino revenue and for the reprivatization of NYRA after three years.
NYRA has been asked repeatedly by your Franchise Oversight Board for breakdowns on betting, which NYRA claims is proprietary information. It is not.
All pool totals for every race with daily totals, broken down by on & off track wagers, are available and printed in Equibase result charts on a race-by-race basis. This is information that not long ago was transparently dispensed.
Parenthetically, this practice began at Churchill Downs Inc. several years earlier. But they are a publicly traded, and can act like corporations act. NYRA is, of course, a quasi-public, not-for-profit organization, not a private corporation, and should act accordingly.
NYRA's insistence on obfuscating facts the public has a right to know is its attempt to hide all the red ink. NYRA boasts about the figures at Saratoga, where it is highly profitable, but hides the downstate data in order to cloak the losses those tracks incur.
Attendance is also public information as NYRA has to remit to the state a 4% tax on paid admissions. As a concerned tax-paying horseplayer, I ask for uniformity and transparency in reporting, not just when the numbers look good.
I applaud the FOB members who recently called out Kay on his “we can't plan for the future” narrative. It's just part of the game-playing that rules NYRA policy while New York State clearly is lurking over its shoulder.
Time is past due for all involved in New York racing; NYRA, the state, and the FOB, to deal with big picture items in their entirety.
Thank you.
Respectfully,
Mark Berner, Horse Race Insider
Coming Thursday: Stars retiring early is only part of racing's problem? Tom Jicha takes a look.
11 Oct 2016 at 03:37 pm | #Way to try being part of the solution, Mark.
Hopefully, as the Boss might plead, “is there anybody alive out there?”
11 Oct 2016 at 03:41 pm | #JP-
Thanks. It’s a cause worthy of support. Hopefully the Franchise Oversight Board will join the conversation.
11 Oct 2016 at 05:00 pm | #Nothing will change as long as the NYRA board remains as it is presently constituted.
These are all--or enough of them are--Gov. Cuomo lackies, who are indebted to him for their jobs. They are not going to challenge anything he wants.
What he wants most of all is the land Aqueduct sits on, unencumbered by a racetrack. This is a matter of when, not if.
He doesn’t care that Belmont is totally unsuited for winter racing and would cost a fortune to adapt, because he doesn’t care anything about racing. How can a governor never show his face at Saratoga?
11 Oct 2016 at 05:59 pm | #While Upstate continues to support Thoroughbred Horse Racing at Saratoga, Downstate appears to have abandoned the sport at both Belmont and Aqueduct.
It’s not only the fans, horsemen either skip the Belmont Fall Meet with their best horses, or send them elsewhere (Kentucky, Maryland, Pennsylvania) to race.
The result is an unappealing product. More people were interested in betting Keeneland this past weekend than the so-called “Super Saturday” at Belmont Park.
It appeared from watching the simulcasts that far more people were in attendance at Keeneland as well.
Is this also NYRA’s fault?
Or is this just a result of the changing landscape of the sport since the Breeders’ Cup stopped coming to NY.
What can be done about it?
11 Oct 2016 at 06:07 pm | #Keeneland is like Saratoga. It’s a special place, people flock to for a boutique meet.
Aqueduct is a toilet and Belmont is an unappealing venue unreachable by public transit, which is used in NYC more than any city in America.
The four Grade 1 stakes at Belmont had a total of 23 horses. Three Grade 1 stakes at Keeneland had 33. Which do you want to bet?
11 Oct 2016 at 06:54 pm | #Tom,
I bet (and won) betting on Keeneland. I didn’t bet a dime on Belmont.
But, the local horsemen have to do better.
Trainers like Brown, Pletcher, and McGlaughlin, are rich because of racing in NY.
Unless the owners are calling the shots. They should have had more top horses racing in NY this Fall.
Only one entered a horse in the Jockey Club Gold Cup, and it was his second stringer. Brown had sent Connect to Parx. I don’t know what Pletcher has done with his best dirt horses.
Downstate fans have given up on horse racing.
Belmont is reachable with the LIRR from Manhattan, Queens, and Brooklyn. People that take the subway can take a shuttle bus from the subway station.
Everybody on Long Island has a car. What’s their excuse?
11 Oct 2016 at 07:05 pm | #TJ,
When did you join the “Concerned citizens of Saratoga?”
Does Cuomo attend other sports or sporting venues? Has he visited any businesses or state agencies to show support for, or interest in, thweir operations?
What did Paterson, Spitzer, or Pataki ever do for racing and its customers besides make appearances at the Spa (assuming they did)?
There must be an explanation for why he’s delaying re-privatization and has hypocritically allowed NYRA transparency to continue as an oxymoron.
If Hendrikson and his buddy, Shimkus, are so concerned, why can’t they use their influence and money to find out what’s really going on and come up with detailed proposals utilizing specific qualified individuals that could remedy the situation—if, in fact, it’s justified.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Cuomo wanted true private ownership running the tracks, and is waiting for viable interested parties to take the initiative. If that should create problems for unions and pensions, he probably doesn’t want to still be around and have to deal with them.
Why doesn’t an HRI staffer with journalistic credentials interview Bennett Liebman as well as some past/current Franchise Oversight Board member(s)?
11 Oct 2016 at 07:06 pm | #I’m sorry. McGlaughlin entered two. But, kept his best horse in the barn. Pletcher entered a G3 winner.
What happened to all the 3 yo’s these guys train?
It’s unbelievable that for a Million Dollars, this is what we get.
11 Oct 2016 at 10:24 pm | #Indulto,
Cuomo doesn’t have his fingerprints all over any other sports. He doesn’t get to appoint one of his cronies manager of the Yankees and Mets.
Since he has such a heavy hand on racing, I would think he would show his face at the place that is considered the citadel of racing. It’s only about 25 miles from the governor’s mansion.
Appearances matter.
He’s delaying re-privatization because it’s a rich source of providing political patronage jobs.
What is there in his speeches or behavior to suggest he is delaying for noble reasons? In his world, viable interested parties are those ready to write a big check for his political campaigns.
12 Oct 2016 at 12:22 am | #Which jobs are you referring to, TJ?
I don’t expect noble. I’d settle for sensible.
12 Oct 2016 at 02:39 am | #TJ-
Cuomo is up for reelection in ‘18. Last I saw, his numbers weren’t strong...54 percent favorability rating & his job-performance rating was only 42 percent positive.
NYRA could be around longer than he.
Yes, no taste for gambling runs in the family. This may go back to his maternal grandfather, who had some problems with the mob. Cuomo does like the revenue stream.
12 Oct 2016 at 02:48 am | #Denny-
Keeneland’s attendance was 28,101 on Saturday, Belmont likely had one tenth of that. Belmont’s on track handle was $2,290,554 and $12,732,350 from all sources. Keeneland’s all source was $15,926,327.
12 Oct 2016 at 09:17 am | #Well considered letter Mark. Something(s) must be holding up the NYRA reprivatization, as many readers have offered plausible reasons for the delay? Perhaps another reason stems from the fact that the NYRA bankruptcy case filed in 2006 was re-opened in 2012 for the specific purpose of determining whether or not the court approved NYRA independent monitor Getnick & Getnick could be unilaterally terminated by the NYRA, and how much Getnick was still owed per this arrangement is yet to be resolved? Seems just one of many obstacles slowing things down, so for horse racing’s sake, let’s hope all NYRA/NY issues come to a head soon and reprivatization is the winner.
12 Oct 2016 at 10:04 am | #What reasonable person would bid for this franchise given the present scenario.
And I’m afraid I agree with Denny; the NY metropolitan area seems to have given up on horse racing.
Using Not-So-Super Saturday as an example, maybe it was the not-so-super field size that accounted for lack of sizable handle.
But there virtually were no people in the building. During one of the stakes, an HRI contributor spotted two people in the box area. TWO!
The “Fall Championship Meet”? In anyone’s worst nightmare, could anyone dream it would come to this? If you love this game, last weekend was sobering and very, very sad.
12 Oct 2016 at 10:30 am | #The on track attendance at Belmknt has fallen through the floor. Staff cuts and small field sizes give the cavernous grandstand a haunted lonely feeling. As Saratoga becomes more expensive and resembles the US Open in price and demographics, the year round fan feels squeezed out and finds another hobby or track to play. This results I an empty Belmont building. The hyper-focus on Saratoga as a profit center has contributed to an empty Belmont Park.
12 Oct 2016 at 10:44 am | #Indulto,
All kinds of jobs; sellers (though they are disappearing); concession workers; picking up the trash. They may not be big ticket jobs but they are jobs, which are scarce in upstate NY.
Each of those people’s vote counts the same as a millionaire’s. Also their friends and relatives remember who got Uncle Nick and Aunt Sadie a job.
Then there are the big ones. The concession purveyors, trash haulers and, for a select few,a seat on the NYRA board. The latter are the people who bundle contributions come election time.
12 Oct 2016 at 10:46 am | #Mark,
Cuomo’s numbers are strong enough. Besides, the way the demographics of the state, especially NYC, have changed, Bernie Madoff could get elected governor as long as he had a (D) after his name.
12 Oct 2016 at 10:47 am | #Have downstate horseplayers given up on racing, or are they playing on-line the way Frank Stronach envisioned when he rebuilt Gulfstream Park?
The computer ushered in the end of patience and the addiction to non-stop action.
Few of today’s racing fans are willing to put up with traffic or crowded and uncomfortable public transportation to reach less-than-attractive surroundings offering less-than-appetizing betting propositions at a dragged-out pace, and then be gouged at concession stands.
The Gulfstream Park West (Calder) meeting should provide some interesting data.
12 Oct 2016 at 11:11 am | #Indulto,
The computer is 1A; simulcasting is 1.
But you are absolutely right about people passing on the hassle of a trip to Belmont. Granted the LIRR can get you there but bring lunch for the trip and it’s not cheap, although not as expensive as it is if you come from the Bronx or Manhattan over one of the $12 toll bridges.
Then the track lets out right in the middle of rush hour. Ever been on the Belt Parkway, Van Wyck or LIE between 5 and 7 p.m.?
12 Oct 2016 at 11:12 am | #Thanks for clarifying the jobs issue, TJ, though I’m still not convinced the ability to control that aspect is a major factor in the delay.
JP,
I agree the present scenario is unworkable for new management. At least one of the downstate properties has to leave the picture first. Maybe Aqueduct is potentially more profitable than Belmont. Perhaps the remaining tracks should be operated by separate entities.
12 Oct 2016 at 11:16 am | #This is facetious, but -
Maybe they need to re-think which track to close down.
Or, maybe they should close BOTH Downstate tracks.
With the exception of the Belmont Stakes, nobody goes to either one.
There are more people working on site on a daily basis, if you add them all up, than there are patrons in attendance.
As John points out, the owners don’t even show up any more. They’d rather be in Keeneland.
Sell both tracks.
Find a lower-cost piece of land somewhere and put a track there. It’s all about simulcasting nowadays anyway.
The landscape changed.
In the meantime. End year-round racing in NY. It’s a grind, and worse, it’s a bore.
12 Oct 2016 at 11:42 am | #What’s not mentioned is that NYRA gets over a million dollars plus in market origin credits that goes towards its statutory payments towards the now NY GAMING COMMISSION,its payments towards breeders and an agricultural fund.This started in 2014 and was a huge reason in NYRA showing a profit.That and a horse going for the triple crown.
12 Oct 2016 at 11:54 am | #To Chris Kay and NYRA:
Stop gauging customers at Saratoga.
I’m there every year and spend time walking around.
There are fewer people sitting in seats facing the track because of the higher prices. The only crowded areas now outside of the clubhouse are the free areas.
Full stands used to be the rule. They’re getting emptier every year since you raised prices.
People are also getting bored with all the time between races. Speed things up a little.
12 Oct 2016 at 12:13 pm | #Tom,
What’s the excuse on a Saturday or Sunday in the Fall?
No commuters, no beach traffic, trains are not crowded.
There are 7.5 million people on LI alone to draw from.
12 Oct 2016 at 12:25 pm | #E.G.,
The rise in prices for reserved seats at the Spa, and the resulting emptiness of whole sections on non-Saturdays, is one of the uncovered stories of Saratoga.
I have suggested that there be reduced prices for weekdays for the sections at the far end of the grandstand. It would be a nice gesture for fans and any revenue is better than no revenue, which is what NYRA is getting now for these seat.
I’m amazed and disgusted that my own personal outrage story has been ignored. General parking is supposed to be free at Saratoga. But if you are handicapped it is $10 weekdays, $12 weekends and $15 for Travers Day.
If you don’t pay, you get pushed practically to the Northway, down a steep hill. There you get to wait in line for a yellow school bus, which takes you the better part of a mile to the entrance gate. If you use a scooter or wheelchair, good luck. This was on an uncrowded weekday.
I can’t believe NYRA gets away with this. Where is the Americans with Disabilities Act?
12 Oct 2016 at 12:30 pm | #Denny-
The point of sale has changed from the racetrack to your living room, and it’s much cheaper to play at home. There are no travel costs, parking or admission fees and the food and drinks are in the fridge. The area is saturated with sports that young people grew up with and those sports hold their interest. It’s a hard fact for racetrackers to face, but the fan base is dying. GenX, millennials, etc, aren’t coming and are not likely to. They haven’t been exposed to Thoroughbred racing from birth and it is a tough sport to master. They will go to a destination (Saratoga) or an event (Belmont stakes) but will not attend on daily basis like us old-timers.
12 Oct 2016 at 12:35 pm | #Mel-
Thanks. There is no incentive for Cuomo to reprivatize NYRA and he’s stacked the reorganization board to assure NYRA will never be strong enough to escape his grip. His selection of Kay insures that all we’ll see is seen through smoke and mirrors.
12 Oct 2016 at 12:40 pm | #William G. Gotimer, Jr-
You are right that shifting the schedule to be Saratoga-centric has diluted the remainer of the calendar. There are sections of the grandstand at Belmont where NYRA could host an indoor skateboard park and a roller hockey league. That’s probably the only way they can get younger people to come to Belmont.
12 Oct 2016 at 01:19 pm | #The game only survives through every day players who embrace it like a lifestyle. Hat is why super cards (and super meets like Saratoga being 6+ weeks) erodes the base. If you put on lackluster cards on all but “Super days” you are inviting every day followers to become occasional followers. This is what has happened to Belmont. Every day used to have a “feature” and every Saturday a big stakes. That provided continuity for fans. That is no longer the case.
12 Oct 2016 at 01:25 pm | #William,
That is a brilliant, insightful contribution.
12 Oct 2016 at 01:28 pm | #The concept of stopping racing at Aqu
12 Oct 2016 at 01:30 pm | #It is an outrage that people with disabilities are treated that way at Saratoga.
Someone should report them to the appropriate agency.
Meanwhile, track employees park free not far away next to the training track. Why not make that available?
They also have a huge area that is unused and could be utilized for parking.
The infield of the training track.
I think you have a great idea about discounting tickets in the grandstand during the week. Half price would be good.
They pay attendants now to make sure no one sits in an empty section!
12 Oct 2016 at 01:37 pm | #continuing comment 31, Aqueduct & Belmont and building a modern facility downstate, easy to get to, is not brand new as it seems it did come up during the racing franchise renewal process bids and discussions. NY state could float a bond for land acquisition and construction and payments could be guaranteed by a portion of the the capital expenditure dollars flowing into the racing operator. Make it something New Yorkers would be proud of and destination travelers would come to, a multi-use facility including racing, family entertainment, recreational activities, cultural events, conference space and even Mark’s aforementioned indoor skateboard park and roller hockey. This is a 3-5 year plan, so things need to get straightened out between/NYRA and NY soon.
12 Oct 2016 at 01:39 pm | #EG,
There are plenty of spots designated for handicapped people. You just have to pay $10-$12-$15 to park in them.
To reiterate, I can’t believe NYRA gets away with this.
12 Oct 2016 at 01:41 pm | #Thank you for the kind words. I have written about this on pastthewire.com and discuss it each week on Thursday nights at 8PM on our internet radio show on Blogtalk radio - RACETRACKERS. We welcome calls. The every day fan senses that only certain meets and days matter and act accordingly. The short term fixes of super cards and pricing out the fans who find Saratoga pleasing have had long-term effects of eroding the loyal base. You can’t be all things to all people and if you try you lose your base. This is a similar problem the NHL has every time it tries to make the game less physical. You lose the base but pick up no new fans.
A single feature each day as the 8th Race regardless of field size and a meaningful
stakes race each Saturday and Sunday provides continuity and should be the norm.
12 Oct 2016 at 02:07 pm | #Thanks for comment #33 Mel.
At least my idea expressed in #21 above isn’t as crazy as I thought. Lol.
I’d also add a Harness track to that facility.
Yonkers stinks and the Meadowlands is in big trouble.
A first rate Harness track could be used at night and during the colder months.
The place would be an attractive location for the Breeders’ Crown and the Hambletonian.
You heard it here first. I think. Lol
12 Oct 2016 at 02:36 pm | #William G,
I’ll look for the show and the site on the internet. Thanks.
I agree.
Too bad we have racetrack executives (Panza) and industry voices (Crist) who think once a month is better.
12 Oct 2016 at 02:43 pm | #Denny, I like the addition of the standardbred racing, as it might bring the Rooney family from Yonkers, and Jeff Gural from the Meadowlands into the mix. Also, hosting the two biggest race days of both breeds is very “New York” like, you know the bestest! There are some keen minds, not only in NY, but the world that would need to be apart of this long range master plan, for not just horse racing but for New York. Denny, it’s possible.....
12 Oct 2016 at 02:49 pm | #Denny,
On the surface a good idea. Woodbine runs flats and trotters. But I sense some problems.
Where would there be a parcel of land big enough for a track, barns and parking? The cost of even undesirable land in NYC is astronomical.
Also, unless NY allows the shenanigans that Fla. does at “Gulfstream West (Calder),” Yonkers would have to continue its harness program to keep its casino. However, Dictator Cuomo could change that if he wanted.
Finally, if there was a casino at the new track, which would seem to be the only way to get it built, it might violate the deal with the folks at Aqueduct, who, I think, have an exclusive on casinos within the New York City limits.
I’m not sure even Dictator Cuomo could fix this. I’m sure the Aqueduct casino people have enough lawyers on their payroll to tie it up in the courts for years. Time would be on their side.
12 Oct 2016 at 03:03 pm | #Got a question? Have any of your contributors and commentators above bet a race today? Ya’all should be in management.
Geez, so much about how things aren’t going right in Thoroughbred racing, yet, to me, none of you are running to the betting window to increase handle (ain’t that what racing needs, bettors Alice?)
Anyway, Alice, I’m gonna bet the number four plodder in the ninth at Delaware hoping we can enjoy a nice steak; isn’t this what it is all about?
12 Oct 2016 at 03:11 pm | #WMC,
You’re usually sharper than this.
I guess there was nothing today to bitch about Pletcher and Baffert so you has to find something else.
Good luck in the ninth at Delaware. You’re moving up to steak from a pastrami sandwich with two pickles so you must like this horse.
12 Oct 2016 at 03:24 pm | #I’ve got a bet on the #4 Lull in the next race at Kenneland.
Hurry 3 MTP.
12 Oct 2016 at 03:38 pm | #To paraphrase TJ, guys like him are the backbone of the sport and more and more of these guys are leaving and finding other ways to spend their time and money. I’m thinking that most of the readers/contributors here are on medicare and that is not a demographic that appeals to the Kays of the world. It doesn’t
matter to him if he is selling widgets, Barbie dolls or horse racing as long as you make a profit. Today is what matters, who cares about the future.
Twenty some years ago with the introduction of simulcasting, some predicted that eventually that would only be a handful of tracks left standing. Sure seems as though that day is much closer. When the casino money runs out, New York racing could be gone and those that care are slowly dying off.
12 Oct 2016 at 03:44 pm | #That was a very nice Exacta for the two best horses.
Glad I backed up my Win bet with an exact box.
Tripled my investment.
BTW nice pick by Mr Pricci, with kudos to Tom as well, of the winner in today’s FRA.
He also recommended the exacta box.
Nice going JP.
12 Oct 2016 at 03:54 pm | #Howard-
I was one of those guys. I called them simulcast centers. Sad but true that we are closer than ever before.
12 Oct 2016 at 04:18 pm | #Denny,
Glad you remembered how strong I was on La Coronel in last week’s column. Of course, it wasn’t me. It was Casse touting her (as well as Classic Empire) but I provided the information.
I know a lot of you won’t believe this but John and I feel as good giving out a winner as betting one.
12 Oct 2016 at 04:28 pm | #Watching, and wagering, on Keeneland today brought out how far they have come (compared to how far Belmont has fallen.)
It’s Wednesday, yet the track put on a great card highlighted by a G3. It looked like there was a good crowd too.
Eight races today was enough as well.
Saturday’s figures provided by Mark also demonstrated this.
An estimated ten times the attendance accompanied by a higher than Belmont handle. This despite running one fewer race that day.
Hey, wmc’s horse just won. Enjoy that steak - if you bet enough, that is.
We’re all winners,today at least.
12 Oct 2016 at 07:06 pm | #Why hasn’t NY hosted a Breeders’ Cup in such a long time?
New Yorkers want more than prep races, unless they get to see the same horses run in the BC at Belmont Park too.
The best horses don’t even come here any more.
Short fields of second-tier stars aren’t going to get anybody excited.